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Pub Bigot 8:18 Wed Apr 13
Good old UEFA - UCL 'wildcards'

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Pub Bigot 5:34 Thu Apr 14
Re: Good old UEFA - UCL 'wildcards'

On the one hand, you can hardly blame clubs for wanting a more significant piece of the pie. We live in a free-market economy, and making money is the name of the game. Owners, unlike supporters, don't have the same emotional attachment.

However, on the other hand, having an NFL type system where the same teams are guaranteed places will have a negative impact as it'll become boring and eventually haemorrhage money and lose audience numbers like the NFL. Also, how will Arsenal and Spurs react to being the competition whipping boys when their pull for players is significantly superseded by the rest?

In short, fuck off.

JayeMPee 5:24 Thu Apr 14
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Wanted them kicked out at the very beginning, football in this country would have been fairer and far more interesting. As it is a significant number are making mega millions out of doing little more than rule making and administration. The game is unbelievably corrupt now and sadly unlikely to change in my days, tragic really.

Capitol Man 3:51 Thu Apr 14
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English football would thrive with the so-called big-6 leaving.

Sure we’d lose some players each year but a real competition for the league would hopefully result.

I’m sure they re looking at things like the NFL and want to emulate that, essentially removing the cost and risks of failure.

only1billybonds 3:43 Thu Apr 14
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This will not end until every big club is guarenteed a place in the CL. How this is achieved wont matter a jot to EUFA or the clubs conerned,they are as bad as each other. Fucking game stinks,if it wasnt for my emotional attatchment to West Ham I'd fuck the whole thing off.

Side of Ham 2:47 Thu Apr 14
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This was the aim once things were 'rebranded' this means at some point the blue chip brands wouldn't be allowed to be lost. They all went scurrying off for worldwide audiences and tbh honest it's not something I've ever wanted for West Ham, it pisses me off now having any 'tourists' at the games, I want our crowd of visitors to be in the main people who have to do some research into us not just know us how sky sports want to portray us......

Mad Dog 2:08 Thu Apr 14
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I'd me more than happy if those 12 clubs fuxked off into a super league.

As long as they had nothing to do with everyone else. And the door was firmly shut on them returning when it all goes to shit.

All the other leagues would suffer a couple of years adaptation, then we'd all be fine and it might even be competitive again.

But uefa would never let that happen. Ita all about ££££££ for them. The corrupt greedy cunts.

They really don't want upstarts like Leicester or potentially us crashing their selective club.

Matthew Holmes 2:00 Thu Apr 14
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A LOT of good posts and opinons on here.

Erudite cunts!

Takashi Miike 1:56 Thu Apr 14
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as long as there's uefa involvement, it will always cater to these parasitic big clubs. it's why teams like Villarreal should be celebrated for breaking the monopoly on the usual suspects. have no doubt, uefa will want Barcelona to win the EL

Pub Bigot 1:32 Thu Apr 14
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Completely agree. Another bonus is that clubs leaving the football pyramid might stop the politicisation of the sport, where games become weekly freak shows for a cause that people may or may not agree with.

As a bonus, a Super League might kill interest in some of the Big 6, effectively ruining the clubs. I'd have zero sympathies.

eusebiovic 1:24 Thu Apr 14
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Pub Bigot

I think average attendances would drop by removing 6 traditionally successful clubs who get their 60,000 plus a week but would eventually thrive amongst those left behind. As an example, I think the Spanish League would be much more competitive without the two giant corrupt behemoths to contend with as well.

Let the big players be corporations and let everyone else run something resembling a genuine football club...

Pub Bigot 11:50 Thu Apr 14
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I would happily have the 'Big 6' leave the Premier League and I was hoping they would join the Super League to bring some balance back to the game. Attendances would drop, interest would drop, but we'd have some sort of level playing field.

percyd 11:49 Thu Apr 14
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cholo 9:00 Thu Apr 14
"To be honest, if it wasn't for my seemingly unbreakable emotional attachment to West Ham, I'd have fucked the premier league off years ago in favour of my local semi pro club that still has that homely feel Upton Park did in the 80s (albeit without the atmosphere due to much smaller crowds).

So yeh, football is fucked and this time I think I can justify I'm not just an old guy shaking his fist at the clouds because I'm getting on a bit."

I can honestly say I enjoyed local club football - where I was directly involved with the club/team as much - and probably more - than my days watching West Ham (and I'm one of the lucky ones who was around when we occasionally won things!). That despite obviously much lower standards.

The modern game seems to be full of windbag whining managers (I'm looking at you Klopp), prima donna players, cheats, largely lacking in characters and humour. And I am sick to the back teeth of all the religious posturing when running on and/or scoring. And all this when every Prem player is coddled by dieticians, yoga instructors, chefs, agents, and numerous other ego polishers, all while playing on luxury mud-free carpets.

MrTrentReznor 11:26 Thu Apr 14
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It was completely disingenuous of Garry Neville when he called for the ESL teams to be 'punished'.
He knew they wouldn't be 'punished'.
The clubs involved knew they wouldn't be punished.
Those clubs couldn't lose in that situation.
At worst things would stay the same but much more likely they'd be rewarded as their respective leagues couldn't do without them & they showed they were willing to leave.
The 'big-6' in the EPL have been rewarded with even more selective application of VAR.
Now this.
FFP rules are in place to make sure that smaller clubs cannot get to the status of the 'elite'/'historic' clubs.
How could these rules be 'fair' when they prevent the vast majority of clubs from paying the transfer fees/wages that a tiny minority can pay?

cholo 9:00 Thu Apr 14
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Football is a grotesque parody of the values it claims to uphold. It is now more corrupt than at any time or place it has ever been. Because now it fully sanctions the bias of power and elitism and shitting on the little man and leaving them out in the cold despite their efforts. No longer organic, the leagues and cups now bend towards the prevailing wind of finance and huge sponsors.

It's a real sham that there will never be another Nottingham Forest or Steaua Bucharest in European football. To be honest, if it wasn't for my seemingly unbreakable emotional attachment to West Ham, I'd have fucked the premier league off years ago in favour of my local semi pro club that still has that homely feel Upton Park did in the 80s (albeit without the atmosphere due to much smaller crowds).

So yeh, football is fucked and this time I think I can justify I'm not just an old guy shaking his fist at the clouds because I'm getting on a bit.

Sydney_Iron 5:45 Thu Apr 14
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Heavily skewed in favour of the “Big” clubs and pretty unfair on everyone else, most of the so called big clubs around Europe qualify for CL and if not Europa anyway, most I suspect will look down their noses at the Conference!!! This is almost insurance for them if they have a bad season.

All part of the cartel and keeping big business and sponsors happy and the revenue flowing in the “right” direction that is to them…..

Mad Dog 10:46 Wed Apr 13
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It's like they want to publicly announce they're corrupt